Legislature(2023 - 2024)ADAMS 519

04/27/2023 01:30 PM House FINANCE

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* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+= HB 26 COUNCIL FOR ALASKA NATIVE LANGUAGES TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 26(TRB) Out of Committee
-- Public Testimony --
+= HB 93 LUMBER GRADING PROGRAM TELECONFERENCED
<Bill Hearing Canceled>
+ SB 87 LUMBER GRADING PROGRAM TELECONFERENCED
Moved SB 87 Out of Committee
+ HB 125 TRAPPING CABINS ON STATE LAND TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ SB 25 REPEALING FUNDS, ACCOUNTS, AND PROGRAMS TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
*+ HB 178 VILLAGE SAFE WATER FACILITIES TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
SENATE BILL NO. 87                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     "An Act  relating to a lumber  grading training program                                                                    
     and  lumber grading  certificates; relating  to use  of                                                                    
     lumber  graded  and certified  by  a  person holding  a                                                                    
     lumber  grading   training  program   certificate;  and                                                                    
     providing for an effective date."                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:49:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster explained that SB  87 was the companion bill                                                                    
to  HB 93,  sponsored  by Representative  Jesse Sumner.  The                                                                    
committee heard HB 93 on April 14, 2023.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR JESSE BJORKMAN, SPONSOR,  introduced SB 87. The bill                                                                    
would  allow for  local lumber  millers and  saw millers  to                                                                    
receive training  from the  Department of  Natural Resources                                                                    
(DNR) through  the University  of Alaska  (UA) to  grade and                                                                    
assess the  lumber and subsequently  sell the lumber  to the                                                                    
end user to build residential homes.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster asked if committee members had questions.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative Ortiz  asked whether  the bill  addressed how                                                                    
an individual could become a  lumber grader. He recently had                                                                    
a  constituent call  him  and  ask how  to  become a  lumber                                                                    
grading trainer.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bjorkman  responded that  the bill would  initiate a                                                                    
training program.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:51:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Galvin relayed  that she  was supportive  of                                                                    
the bill  and had  already co-sponsored the  House companion                                                                    
bill. She  asked if the bill  would act as a  stepping stone                                                                    
to  the  next level  of  a  grading  program that  would  be                                                                    
inclusive of products that could  be used for larger houses.                                                                    
There was a  great need for housing in the  more urban areas                                                                    
and wondered if the bill would be expanded upon.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bjorkman responded that  the reason the restrictions                                                                    
limiting  locally  graded  lumber   were  in  place  was  in                                                                    
correspondence  to  the  strength testing  that  lumber  was                                                                    
required to  undergo by lumber  grading agencies.  The local                                                                    
lumber was not  less strong, but the reason  why the program                                                                    
was not  made available for  the purpose of  building larger                                                                    
structures was for quality control  to maintain a one-to-one                                                                    
relationship between  the seller  and the buyer.  He thought                                                                    
it was smart to begin the  program on a smaller scale. There                                                                    
was  potential for  it  to  be a  stepping  stone to  larger                                                                    
projects, but  it would  be under  the purview  of statewide                                                                    
building codes.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative Coulombe  asked about Section 41  of the bill                                                                    
which stated that the certification  would be valid for five                                                                    
years. She  asked if a  person would  need to do  the entire                                                                    
program again after the certification  had expired or if the                                                                    
process could be expedited.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Bjorkman   deferred  the  question  to   an  online                                                                    
testifier.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:55:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JEREMY  DOUSE,   NORTHERN  REGIONAL  FORESTER,   DIVISON  OF                                                                    
FORESTRY   AND  FIRE   PROTECTION,  DEPARTMENT   OF  NATURAL                                                                    
RESOURCES  (via teleconference),  responded that  the intent                                                                    
was  that the  individual would  take the  class again.  The                                                                    
class  was  only  one  day   and  he  thought  it  would  be                                                                    
beneficial   for  individuals   to   receive  the   learning                                                                    
experience again. Additionally, the class would be free.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Cronk  appreciated the  bill and  believed it                                                                    
was  a  stepping stone  in  creating  a vibrant  timber  and                                                                    
lumber  industry in  the  state. He  thought  timber was  an                                                                    
endless resource in the state.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hannan commented that  she had been concerned                                                                    
that  the program  would  be housed  in  the university  but                                                                    
there was  no information provided from  the university. She                                                                    
was aware  that the  university had  stated its  support for                                                                    
the  legislation  in  a  letter,  but  the  letter  was  not                                                                    
included in  committee packets. She  wanted to  give Senator                                                                    
Bjorkman  the  opportunity  to  speak  on  the  university's                                                                    
support.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bjorkman deferred the question to his staff.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
LAURA ACHEE,  STAFF, SENATOR JESSE BJORKMAN,  responded that                                                                    
DNR had spoken with UA  about creating a position that would                                                                    
support the instruction for the  lumber grading program. The                                                                    
fiscal note was  from DNR because it was a  DNR program. The                                                                    
department  could have  chosen to  conduct the  training in-                                                                    
house or  work with  another vendor, but  ultimately decided                                                                    
to collaborate with the university.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Foster  asked Mr.  Douse  to  describe the  fiscal                                                                    
note.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Douse explained  that the fiscal note  from DNR [control                                                                    
code pQzXM]  would not require any  additional personnel but                                                                    
would  require some  additional travel  expenses for  lumber                                                                    
milling and grading  training events. Additionally, expenses                                                                    
for  contractual services  through  a reimbursable  services                                                                    
agreement  with  the  university would  be  incurred.  There                                                                    
would also be a cost  for commodities, which would cover the                                                                    
cost of  publishing a lumber  grading handbook  for purposes                                                                    
of training.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Foster noted  that there  were  no amendments.  He                                                                    
would entertain  a motion  to move  the bill  if it  was the                                                                    
will of the committee.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:00:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Tomaszewski MOVED  to  REPORT SB  87 out  of                                                                    
committee   with   individual    recommendations   and   the                                                                    
accompanying fiscal note.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
There being NO OBJECTION, it was so ordered.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SB 87 was REPORTED out of committee with a "do pass"                                                                            
recommendation and with one previously published fiscal                                                                         
note: FN1 (DNR).                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
SB 25 Explanation of Changes version A to version B.pdf HFIN 4/27/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 25
SB 25 Sectional Analysis version B.pdf HFIN 4/27/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 25
SB 25 Sponsor Statement version B.pdf HFIN 4/27/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 25
HB125 Sectional Analysis ver P 4.17.23.pdf HFIN 4/27/2023 1:30:00 PM
HB 125
HB125 Summary of Changes (R to P) 4.17.23.pdf HFIN 4/27/2023 1:30:00 PM
SRES 1/24/2024 3:30:00 PM
HB 125
HB125 Sponsor Statement 4.17.23.pdf HFIN 4/27/2023 1:30:00 PM
HB 125
HB125 Presentation 4.27.23.pdf HFIN 4/27/2023 1:30:00 PM
HB 125
HB 178 VSW NEW FN DEC Water 042723.pdf HFIN 4/27/2023 1:30:00 PM
HB 178
SB 87 Sectional Analysis version A.pdf HFIN 4/27/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 87
SB 87 Sponsor Statement version A.pdf HFIN 4/27/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 87
SB 87 Support rec'd by 04.17.23.pdf HFIN 4/27/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 87
HB 178 VSW DEC Water 042723.pdf HFIN 4/27/2023 1:30:00 PM
HB 178
HB178 Supporting Document-Bush Caucus letter to DEC.pdf HFIN 4/27/2023 1:30:00 PM
HB 178
HB178 Supporting Document-DEC Response to Chuloonawick.pdf HFIN 4/27/2023 1:30:00 PM
HB 178
HB178 Supporting Documents-best practices scoring criteria.pdf HFIN 4/27/2023 1:30:00 PM
HB 178
HB178 Supporting Documents-Chuloonawick Letter to DEC.pdf HFIN 4/27/2023 1:30:00 PM
HB 178
HB178 Supporting Documents-City of Bethel letter to DEC.pdf HFIN 4/27/2023 1:30:00 PM
HB 178
HB178 Supporting Documents-DEC Affordability Framework.pdf HFIN 4/27/2023 1:30:00 PM
HB 178
HB178 Supporting Documents-DEC response to the Bush Caucus re VSW OM BP.pdf HFIN 4/27/2023 1:30:00 PM
HB 178
HB178 Supporting Documents-Resolution 22-20 In Support of Reform of the State's Best Practices Program.pdf HFIN 4/27/2023 1:30:00 PM
HB 178
HB178 Sponsor Statment.pdf HFIN 4/27/2023 1:30:00 PM
HB 178